Michael,
I’m assuming at this point you have taken the time to kind of read over Michelle Obama’s thesis. If not, here are just some pieces to look over.
Earlier in my college career, there was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the Black community I was somehow obligated to this community and would utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit this community first and foremost. My experiences at Princeton have made me far more aware of my "Blackness" than ever before.
These experiences have made it apparent to me that the path I have chosen to follow by attending Princeton will likely lead to my further integration and/or assimilation in a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society
She spends most of her time making claims with no citations. So my perception of her thesis is that she felt that she was being forced to assimilate and integrate with white folks and that this clearly caused her problems. So much that she based her entire thesis on the subject. Maybe she was playing a more intelligent game of chess, who knows. The point is she played the race card and she did it in a very distasteful manner. If a white person had written this then attempted to run for any political office within the land, they would be labeled a racist or that they harbored some animosity towards black America. It is quite clear Michelle Obama did in fact harbor issues with her white professors and peers. I realize in your eyes that if Ms. Obama showed some gratitude as well as some class that would be considered another form of submission by “Black America” as you clearly stated with the “Yesssum massa, thank ya thank ya”. My question is, why didn’t she just attend a predominantly black college if she wanted to avoid integrating with “white” America? If I wanted to attend an all black college, wouldn’t I have to integrate with the social structure of that school if it was predominantly black? Wouldn’t it be some what hypocritical of me if I complained about it? I do know that I would be viewed as an arrogant snob and obviously a racist if I ever did attend a black college and shared her same view points. I highly doubt that I would be able to play the race card in those conditions but maybe I’m wrong. Maybe my black professors would feel sympathy for me once they read my thesis and they would pass me.
Now, for Sunday morning. I appreciate you taking the time to break down the differences between those who came in to the country and those who were forced and those who were all around treated poorly. How the Irish at least had a chance to make their way through the hard times and were able to integrate with the rest of “white” America. I understood your point and again I appreciated you taking the time to lay it out in such a format. However, the end of that discussion was again how blacks have had it harder.
The whole reason we had that discussion was because two of your callers were referring to myself as being a “sleazy car salesman” and a “slave owner”. Once I rebutted, I was stifled by “calm down, what’s wrong with you, why are you so angry”. Again, liberals playing the victim in order to get their point across. Which I still do not see. Michelle Obama was in fact and may very well still be harboring a lot of animosity towards white people. Which in my eyes is racist. You may or may not agree but that is exactly how it looks and to be cut down by some assholes who clearly did not even look at her thesis, well it is disappointing.
We didn’t even touch on her militant “fight the white power structure” church which her and her husband attended for nearly twenty years. We become products of our environment do we not? Yes, she just overlooked everything her preacher was rattling on about and her husband, when he quotes the Reverend Wright within his books, someone else just put that there. It was evil whitey.
You see, this is where Eric Holder appears to be a moron. These are the reasons that discussions of race can not carry on. They are always one sided and they are fueled primarily by ignorance or white guilt. When actual facts are discussed, they are dismissed and the person who brings them to the table are referred to as being racist or in this case “slave owner”. I personally believe Michael, while you have great intentions, you too harbor some animosity towards white people. Lastly, I want to say thank you for letting me come down to the show. Obviously I offended you and some how, your callers. Either way I apologize for that and I hope things turn around down there. Good luck.
Thanks,
Shawn
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Shawn,
I'll try to start over. I have just taken a few minutes to read the opening of MO's thesis. I'll try to read more but I must say I would be hard pressed to read even my own writings from 20 years ago. And I can assure you that I was quite the writer, not. I am also one who goes off on tangents easily( as you can observe one the air), so I found a question popping in my mind and took a little time to check it out. How many theses can you find from 20 years ago or any time ago? It took me 20 minutes to find this thesis on school funding.
My point here is two fold. 1. I will honestly try to read the obama( robinson) thesis, but how important and/ or reflective of critical thinking is a thesis by a 21 year old who has very limited experiences racial or otherwise. 2. the meer fact that we are talking about a sociology thesis means that the focus is going to be on a "negative" aspect of societal forces. I have never read any thing by a sociologist or philosopher that focused on how wonderful life is and everything is great. they re always looking for a problem, inequality, or trend that needs to be "fixed."
In the coming days I hope to look at your post and give it due consideration and dialogue with you about it. I've put it on the front page here, so I am sure that there will be others that join in the fray and opine as well.
let me get back to reading the thesis and your analysis of it and the ensuing conversation and I'll try to respond further this evening.
Liberals hate whitey.
Michelle is a liberal.
I'll leave the rest to you.
Wasn't Obama born from a white woman?
What difference does that make? Is that some sort of shield? It doesnt some how make you exempt nor does it put you above anyone else. Besides, we are discussing Michelle Obama, not her husband.
Michael,
I understand your point “how important and/ or reflective of critical thinking is a thesis by a 21 year old who has very limited experiences racial or otherwise” but that wasn’t the tune that was being sung that morning. Three of you immediately jumped on the bandwagon of telling me that I was wrong. Now you’re excusing what I stated by acknowledging it and chalking it up to her having “limited experiences”. See, had you made this statement during the process then I wouldn’t have had any issues with this subject at all. It’s kind of late to make excuses for her at this point. You and your callers were clearly in the wrong and I appreciate you acknowledging it by making excuses for her. Hey, here’s a quick question? Why do you think Obama won’t release his SAT scores?
If she hates white people so much, why would she marry a guy who is half white? I admit it doesn't "exempt" her from hating white people, but it blows away some of that smoke you think is a fire. Besides, she didn't run for President (as you claimed), Barack did- how about you prove how HE hates white people?
First off, I never claimed that she ran for the Presidency. I did make a statement in regards to the responsibility she has as being the first lady. They condemned Sarah Palin and most of the ammunition they used was based on her family and husband. Note that she too was not running for the Presidency but that didn’t stop the media from spinning every single detail they could possibly find. She was even dragged in to the ground for having a child with down syndrome. Don’t you think having militant views and being anti any race on this planet would hold more ground? We are the melting pot of the world. This is the absolute wrong place to be whining about having to “integrate”. As for her husband, I never claimed he hated whites although I don’t doubt that he too harbors ill feelings towards whites just as his wife has. You are not blind, you seen the type of nonsense they were fed from the church they attended for nearly twenty years. They obviously did not have problems with what was being said. Again, I still don’t see your point about him being half white? I never seen him claiming that he was “white” but maybe he did? Although I’m still not certain how your logic works. If I marry a black woman, does that give me the right to be a racist asshole? Does that some how make it “ok”?
Firstly, you DID say, "If a white person had written this then attempted to run for any political office within the land..", which is comparing her to someone who IS running for office. Sarah Palin is a completely different case, she was chosen as McCain's 'running mate', she WAS, therefore, running for office. If you married a black woman or had a black mother, I would find it hard to believe you are racist (and I would watch the skies for falling pig shit), it would take more than a 20 year old thesis and a passionate pastor to convince me. What has she done, since being elected, that has lowered white people's standing in the world? What COULD she do? Seems a little paranoid to me, and I'm one of those people that questions 9/11.
Shawn...To save you time, Marcus is an idiot and not worth debating. You will find that out soon enough.
Also, the "security consultant" with "houses on both coasts" is a former cop. Like Bill O'Reilly, he is style over substance.
You can't reason with these people. To them, you are a racist if you aren't a left-wing lockstepper and you are a slave owner if you are an entrepreneur. Really, after the 20th century, if you are still a socialist/liberal, you are an idiot.
“The socialist who is a Christian is more to be dreaded than a socialist who is an atheist.”
Fyodor Dostoyevksy
Well I can't argue with that. It does seem to be going no where. Marcus, you seem to be missing the point by about eight thousand miles. I'm not sure if you are just trying to reverse the situation or you clearly do not understand. Yes, Michelle Obama does have a responsibility when her husband is a political leader or better yet, has made a career in politics. Just as Barbara Bush, Nancy Reagan, even their children have a responsibility to the public as well as their spouses as do we all. Unfortunately, that responsibility is far greater when you are forcing yourself in to the publics eye. Now look, really try to wrap your head around this. If Barbara Bush EVER did an interview discussing how traveling through predominantly black neighborhoods made her uncomfortable, what would the black population here in America, every black activist, every white liberal, what would Barbara Bush be labeled as? How quickly would she be tore apart within the media? Now note, we are talking about traveling through bad neighborhoods and attending Ivy league campuses. Tell me you understand this, please otherwise I might have to smash my head in with a hammer.
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zM5ldO35A
Debate that.
Barbara Bush DID do that during Katrina... what IS your point? I thought it was that you think Michelle is a racist because she wrote a (what you found to be) scary thesis back in college and she had a pastor that said controversial shit. I have to agree with Bill Maher about their old pastor when he said the shit the media brought up wasn't as controversial as the idea of a god, but that is a bit off point. What am I missing about your point?
Had she said it prior to her husband becoming the president of the United States, he would have never had a chance at getting in office. That is my point. I don't see you responding to what I posted. All you have to do is copy and paste.
I would have to read Obama's book (something I don't think you have done, either). I can tell you that it seems many of the quotes were out of context, but I don't care enough to find out to show you. I don't know if you've ever met a black person, other than Michael T, but try to imagine growing up in this country as one. You would probably learn alot from actually reading Obama's book.
If you paid any attention, you can hear him reading it off. It has him reading for his audio book. Look, I don't deny that black folks have gone through difficult times in this country. I mean I think that is obvious. My problem is that there are HUGE double standards within this country. For some reason, the same rules do not apply to whites as they do blacks. Being a white male, there are no discrimination laws that protect me from anything. Employment, hate crimes, etc. Unless I claimed I was gay. I went to all black schools, I bank and shop at businesses that are in predominantly black areas. I have many black friends who I have never had a single issue with but, I do see a major double standard. This whole theory that it is impossible for blacks to be racist as they were never in a position of "power". I see it all the time. Now we have public officials such as Eric Holder, pointing his finger behind his white wife which you seem to think is ok and makes him invincible to the word racism. We have assholes like him calling us cowards and we know exactly who that finger is being pointed at. Whites do not discuss racism because no matter what they say or do it is spun around. They are beaten in to the ground with either white guilt, one sided political correctness, or like you heard the other night, morons playing the victim. Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not looking for sympathy. I could truly care less about what any of you think about myself. What I do care about, is the fact that you follow the same bullshit that you press on everyone else. If you want to be treated fairly and equally, then treat those how you want to be treated. I don’t think anyone in this country should get special treatment just because of their race or gender.
http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/barack-obamas-mother-was-a-communist/
I think I left that off. I doubt that Obama's mother married for love and then bam her black husband left her to raise their kid. So much for being a man and sticking around. What a bum and hell he got to go to school for free here.
http://gollygeeez.blogspot.com/2008/05/this-apple-didnt-fall-too-far-from-tree.html
During Obama's campaign for the 2008 presidential election he portrayed his mother as a conservative girl from Kansas; however in reality she was a radical leftist and cutural Marxist. She lived in the Seattle area; spending her teenage years in Seattle coffee shops with other young radical leftist. Obama claims his mother's family were conserevative Methodists or Baptists from Kansas. However, his mother's parents were members of a left-wing Unitarian church near Seattle. The church located in Bellevue, Washington was knicknamed "the little red church," because of its communist leanings.
Her son looks nothing like her.
umm...
Her phenotype was totally wiped out.
When I said that many quotes seemed out of context, I didn't mean they were not his words, although it was obvious some of them were him relaying what others like Malcolm X had said to him, but that without the rest of the story, the quotes are put in a different light. I think that preferential treatment can be argued for when determining equal rights. I think it is dumb to say that black people can't be racist, I also think it's dumb to say a thing called 'white guilt' exists (unless you think the posturing on TV is reality). I like the philosophy of treating others how you want to be treated, but I think walking a mile in their shoes is better (and they are not mutually exclusive). You may find that people aren't as hard on old black people that harbor racism against whites, but I think you could understand why. Being a racist is small minded any way you cut it, but it's more understandable if the majority of an opposing race hated you for yours. I'm still curious what you're afraid the racist black President and his racist First Lady are going to do to crackers and peckerwoods across America? Start a new crop of "Strange Fruit"?
During Obama's campaign for President he suspended it for a time while his (white) grandmother had her final battle with cancer.
Obama's mom supposedly went to a church the right-wingers call "the little red church" and she is a commie! Bush's grandpa was literally a Nazi and his dad ran the goddamn CIA. Get the fuck outta here with your weak false propaganda. You weren't saying shit for the last 8 years, noone should listen for your voice now.
What the fuck does Bush or his scummy family have to do with your dear leader. The govenment just released another document profiling people on the right including people that voted for Ron Paul etc. In fact they linked such people to White Power Groups.
Now put your sheet on and suck it up.
I never voted or supported Bush and his neocon friends. They all should be in jail but wait your Dear Leader let them off the hook.
hahaha
Prove that his grandfather was really a Nazi. No way. It is not Nazi that control this country. Hollywood communist and their friends do.
Did you go to or see any of those Teabagger parties? There's no doubt White Power groups are involved... I don't know exactly how many, but there sure looked like more than I would've thought in a country of "white guilt". I think you're fighting ghosts, you think you're fighting "spooks". At least you don't think it's god's will.
God has nothing to do with it. I have seen God twice what is your point. And no God isnt an old man with a beard. HAHAHA.
I thought about it but then didnt want to help 7:10 AM
The US is on her way down to second World status if we are lucky if not Third World.
White libs play the guilt trip Members of White Power groups obviously don't.
White libs cry themselves to sleep worrying about their carbon foot print while China builds a coal fired plant every week.
We do nothing while our infrastructure falls apart.
First off, I'm not fighting "spooks". I'm simply trying to have a conversation about "race" because some asshole pointed his finger at me and made a really stupid statement. The problem with this scenario is that stupid ass white people such as yourself need to yank your tounge out of everyones asses. You are not hip, you're not cool, no one notices you when you stroll in to Starbucks or when you are rattling on about 911 and the "extensive" amount of knowledge you have obtained through endless Youtube videos. You are not eccentric, you are not special, you are another slug that is just stopping progress. If you don't want to have a discussion on race then shut the fuck up and get out of the way.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-%e2%80%9crightwing-extremism%e2%80%9d-document-created-during-bush-administration.html
The “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” document was produced during the Bush administration, as a quick check of the PDF document’s properties reveals. It was created on January 23, 2007.
Our New Dear Leader please arrest Bush and his ilk.
Now look here boy gets out of my way I gots important stuff to do.
No arresting Bushy boy on my watch.
Now get this moron out of here.
First off, the spooks comment was directed to the coward (I mistook for you) that doesn't put his name. Secondly, you're the asshole that tried to use some bullshit YouTube video to make your point. Thirdly, from the posts you put your name to, I don't think you'd know progress if it hit you with a bus on the road to futureville. I seem to remember the stupid ass white guy on KKFI, spouting ridiculous shit in giggly spurts throughout the night, eventually put his foot in his mouth and couldn't get it out.
Thats the whole reason I'm even posting here. Because I didnt put my foot in my mouth. Out of the three people who were trying to play the victim by referring to myself as a "slave owning sleazy car salesman" because they clearly did not read nor know anything about what they were talking about when it came to Michelle Obama's thesis (refer to the first comment located above), I was in fact the only one who knew anything about the subject matter. But that sure didnt stop the two morons who called in from throwing their bs opinions around and telling me that I was "wrong" and "way off" when again they had clearly never even glanced at it by their own admission. So next time put a sock in it Mr. Expert Youtuber. I win you lose now shut the fuck up you kiss ass.
See what I mean, Shawn.
If you want to call Marcus, his phone number is 816-931-4420.
You claimed Michelle Obama was racist because of her thesis... you are still wrong, your foot is STILL in your mouth. You obviously knew nothing of the subject matter even after having read the thesis, if it is your opinion that it was racist. You posted a couple of bits that I assume you found to be evidence, I'm not sure what is supposed to be scary about the parts you chose... I could recommend some YouTube videos that weren't done by some scared white idiot trying to scare other white idiots about Obama's race (like yours was). Congratulations on getting your foot so far into your mouth you have to untie your shoe to wipe your ass. The fact that a known bigot is licking your heals should be a big red flashing sign. So, what is it that the big bad black folks are going to do to you? If they start cracking down on the Klan and your neo nazi buddies are you going to scream racism again? You say you have a point but you keep it hid pretty well.
First off, I don't need to label or apply stereotypes to you which are waaaaaay off base and clearly show just how much integrity you lack. Secondly, I never stated that her statements were "scary". I simply stated that they are racist because they are in fact motivated by disliking another race. She is or was in fact a racist. Your ignorant and totally off base statements does exactly one thing, it proves my point. Whites are not allowed to discuss race unless it is in the form of massaging someones prostate and what is EXTREMELY pathetic about it, are dumb white shits like yourself who stifle such discussions by throwing out ignorant remarks and stereotypes with absolutely no merit (see above). You are not doing anyone any favors with that shit. Just because you're too big of a pussy to have this conversation doesnt mean you should retreat and start kissing ass in hopes that you might get pat on the head. Don't you find it ironic how many ignorant white dipshits like you exist? You do absolutely nothing for humanity. I would bet money that you are half ass employed and you spend the majority of that time sitting and waiting for your crumbs at the end of each week. I'm sure you have absolutely zero to offer to anyone or anything other then your infinite Youtube wisdom and obscene conspiracy theories. You see, her thesis holds substance. SHE WROTE THE FUCKING THING YOU MORON. Even die hard white liberals such as yourself would tell you that after reading her thesis that they can conclude that it was in fact racially driven and not in a positive way. I can't believe how absolutely stupid you are. I get that you want to kiss Mikes ass. God forbid you find another way to spread your Youtube wisdom but come on, have you ever heard of the fucking word integrity?! I wouldnt doubt if you still live with your mother in her basement. Do me a favor, find something to offer humanity other then being a human garbage disposal.
After reading through her really badly written thesis one will not finding a smoking gun but one will find smoke in the sense that its tone is anti white the system the very same system that built Princeton in the first place and the very same system that let her go to school there, the very same system that let her husband's dead beat first father come here and go to Harvard all expenses paid and then after getting the paper he goes back to Africa where he hits the bottle a lot since his trying to get a high level job in the Kenya government seems to have not worked out for him.
It would be interesting to know if Michelle was a congress critter if she would join with the black caucus the same group that sees sheets in ever closet and every year tries passing Reparations bills for blacks living now that never experienced slavery and who collectively have the highest living standards in the world, and the longest life spans for blacks in the world compared to Africa and other areas of the world where blacks are in the super majority.
I read the thesis and didn't find this racism that you claim. I suppose it is because I can look at things somewhat objectively. The only reason I could come up with is that you are scared of black people and take offense at the slightest disapproval from them. You have offered nothing to dissuade this opinion. Your personal attacks lack anything to do with your argument and further prove you have no point and are just an angry white kid. You have been wrong about everything you've said from your schoolgirl giggle comments over the air (were you drunk?) to your pathetic assertions onto my character (including my race). I think you're done.
Well actually I was drunk but not to the point that I didn’t know what was going on. You clearly are far too close minded to have this discussion. You're only interest seems to be shutting down the discussion. I know you're some white douche bag who is having an identity crisis. I go down to the radio station to observe primarily. I rarely give my two cents and obviously when I do, I need to stay aware of the white douche bags who are trying to play teachers pet. So far I've been called a "slave owner" a "sleazy car salesman" and you made the implication of me running with "Nazi's". The mildest of the three being the sleazy car salesman.. which was directed towards me by a black man. The other two, both race driven, shouted out by a couple of white douche bags. Now what does that say for where we are at in terms of discussing race? You're just as brain washed as the next asshole who think's he is special and that people are paying attention to him. That he is doing some "good" in the world. You're part of the problem, not the solution. I feel that I can discuss race with out being labeled a racist. I am not a slave to political correctness nor white guilt. Obviously you can not say the same Captain save the Republic. Work on it then you can come back and play in the big kids pool.
It's nice that you reserve the right to decide who gets called racist. Is that because of your race? Just to be clear, if the neo nazis call you buddy, you don't have to reciprocate because you've said enough already. What is this problem that I'm a part of? Racist black people stealing your country? I don't see it.
Also, you're not really swimming with us big kids until you take the inflatable water wings off (and for fuck's sake, quit pissing in the deep end).
What exactly do you do for a living "Marcus"? This game of playing the reversalist is getting old. Lets get to some real substance and see just how accurate I was in evaluating your meaningless life. So what do you do?
Reversalist is your game. Michelle is racist because a white person didn't write her thesis.
Earlier, you claimed that her thesis had substance because, "she wrote the fucking thing", which makes no sense. Now, you claim to gain substance from discovering that I'm a hispanic manager at a popular hotel chain (honest work compared to a used car salesman), even though it has absolutely no bearing on your argument. Do you know the meaning of the word "substance" or "racist", for that matter? Will my address and telephone number strengthen your position on Obama's racism? Idiot.
Hey Marcus you read her paper can you really say that it was well written. If you had written it do you think you would have gotten a good grade or do you think she was given a pass?
Honestly, having never gone to college myself, I don't think I would have done as thorough a job at that age, while it may not be "A" material, I think it is surely passable.
Well, Shawn, I tried to tell you.
A hispanic manager? So, you manage hispanics? I don't get it.
Yes, I manage hispanics. I manage whites and blacks, too. I manage christians and a pagan, as well. This is the problem: you have these little boxes already preconcieved in your mind that you put people into, we all do it to some extent (I do it to christians alot, there are evolutionary explanations), but something went terribly wrong during the construction of your boxes. I don't know if it's because you have too few or they're the wrong sizes or they're built too strong or what, but you hate to be told that there is something wrong with your boxes. The trick is, people don't fit into boxes of any kind, once you realize that, we can talk about progress. The only discussion on race I think that there need be is about the human race. That probably seems hypocritical with regard to the thesis, but maybe the discussion was still needed back then (I, of course, reserve the right to be a hypocrite). The problem with the thesis, as I recall, wasn't about the value of discussing race, but whether Michelle was a racist for writing it. I think she is not, I haven't been shown why you do. Regardless of what you think, I don't speak for MichaelT, so I am curious to see if he thinks she is (apparently, not a speed reader) the same with TheEvilGenius and anyone else who would opine (except Mike). What would it take to change your mind?
Marcus societies like ours don't survive long term too many chefs in the kitchen.
The US is losing her lead in many fields while the dropout rate goes up and up even though trillions have been thrown down that hole. Women studies, black studies, Hispanics studies that have little coin of worth: i.e. thesis papers that only people in those cottage industries read funded by taxpayers. I read through a feminist thesis a few years back it was really insane is the best way to describe it. But I digress the US is headed for second world status at best third world at worst. We have at least 10-20 million illegals here, the US cannot employ the hundreds of millions around the world that want to work.
I say the US has twenty years at the most before it splits up.
Read this then get back to me:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-298.html
In 1985 a federal district judge took partial control over the troubled Kansas City, Missouri, School District (KCMSD) on the grounds that it was an unconstitutionally segregated district with dilapidated facilities and students who performed poorly. In an effort to bring the district into compliance with his liberal interpretation of federal law, the judge ordered the state and district to spend nearly $2 billion over the next 12 years to build new schools, integrate classrooms, and bring student test scores up to national norms
You see, you just took everything I stated and added your own little spin to it. you completely manipulated it all and tried turning it around which makes this absolutely useless. You want to talk about boxes, you don't place evil whitey in his own box do ya? You can sit behind your monitor and point your finger all that you like but when it comes down to it, I'm out in the world doing something positive. I don't sit and worry about when I might get canned and where will I find employment again. I've walked a mile in your shoes as far as employment is concerned, you can not say the same so you can keep that nonsense to yourself. I'm a real man and you, well you're just another slave to evil whitey haha protecting "the mans" money and what do you do in your part time or I should say, on the mans dollar? You rattle on about how evil whitey is haha. Hopeless.
I never said whitey was evil. YOU are the one who thinks everyone is out to get you because you're white. You don't make sense. I'm a slave to "the man"? I understand why people say that, but I don't think it is as true as them being slaves to their desire. Does that make Obama racist? What would it take to change your opinion?
Yes Marcus is very deceptive and gets things twisted all the fucking time.He even adds shit in you never say or imply. I now can say im not the only one that recognises his deceptions.
BIGDOG
To Marcus:
If Obama supports AA programs etc then he is a bigot at best and a racist at worst.
He supports programs that discriminate against white males on nothing more than skin color. If he truly believed in equality he would have to stand against such policies.
As a white male I am told over and over that it is evil and immoral to discriminate against others unless it's other white males then game on. And no doubt his wife also is in favor of racial discrimination against white males.
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