Saturday, July 25, 2009

Black Teen, Set On Fire By White Classmates, Is Charged With Assault

82 comments:

Marcus said...

I just watched a documentary from HBO about a school in Alabama that just had their first integrated prom in 2008 because Morgan Freeman said he'd pay for it (the whites still had one separate prior to the one Morgan Freeman paid for).

Anonymous said...

I love listening to foolish people, but last nights, last show (thank god), was the top of the cake.

NO ONE mentioned anythng about Gates not owning that house and how it is the property of HAVARD. Therefore it wouldnt matter who lived there unless it was the DEED owner was doing the b&e. Noone mentioned that two men were prying a door open with a CROWBAR and it appeared to be a b&e to a local neighbor, in wich this same neighborhood was under close scrutiny due to previous breakins.

Why didnt he show ID and cooperate with the police?

Then noone mentioned how obama made a clearifying statement on how his friend acted out of hand and how he thought the cop acted out of hand and how he should have stayed out of it all together. Once again showing the only racism card would be played once again by a so called victim of law enforcement. Gates should have called the local authority for that hood and had them come out and help him get in.*lightbulb*

The man was arrested for disorderly conduct outside the HARVARD UNIVERSITY owned home.Oh and i bet his belief that Obama would save him didnt work. I mean what are friends for anyways...lol

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

Looks like a bigdog went chasing that stick.

Illuminaughty said...

So why the rush and the press on the Senate? Increasing evidence is emerging that far from there being global warming, the Earth has been cooling and has been doing so for 10 years. Prominent atmospheric scientists have recently sent a letter to Congress saying, "You are being deceived about global warming. ... The Earth has been cooling for ten years. ... The present cooling was not predicted by the alarmists' computer models." Last March, more than 700 international scientists went on record dissenting over manmade global warming claims. About 31,500 American scientists, including 9,029 with Ph.D.s, have signed a petition, that in part reads, "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."

The Obama administration's EPA sees the increasing evidence against global warming as a threat to their agenda and has taken desperate measures. About a week before the House vote on "cap and trade," the Washington, D.C.-based Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) released some EPA e-mails, demonstrating that an internal report by Alan Carlin, a 35-year career EPA analyst, criticizing EPA's position on global warming, had been squelched for political reasons. One of the e-mails is from Dr. Al McGartland, director of the EPA's National Center for Environmental Economics reads, "The administrator and administration has decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. ... I can see only one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office."

The Competitive Enterprise Institute summarizes Dr. Carlin's report saying, "(T)hat EPA, by adopting the United Nations' 2007 'Fourth Assessment' report, is relying on outdated research and is ignoring major new developments. Those developments include a continued decline in global temperatures, a new consensus that future hurricanes will not be more frequent or intense, and new findings that water vapor will moderate, rather than exacerbate, temperature. "New data also indicate that ocean cycles are probably the most important single factor in explaining temperature fluctuations, though solar cycles may play a role as well, and that reliable satellite data undercut the likelihood of endangerment from greenhouse gases."

Geologist Dr. David Gee, chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress, currently at Uppsala University in Sweden asks, "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" Obviously, 10 years is not enough.

Anonymous said...

am i trippin or did marcus actually put out some good news?

Anonymous said...

Chasing what stick?

The stick of crying racial profiling without any evidence of such?

Marcus said...

On MTJ's show Bill recognized the Gates story as a distraction (a thrown stick) from real news stories (health care reform, ridiculous appointments, etc.).

As to whether I put out any good news... good and bad are relative concepts.

Anonymous said...

Gates police report.


Yeh racial profiling MY ASS!!!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/

archive/years/2009/

0723092gates1.html


Yeh i like this quote:"The Cambridge Police Department reports, authored by Sergeant James Crowley and Officer James Figueroa, quote an incensed Gates yelling, "This is what happens to black men in America!," and, when asked by Crowley to speak with him outside the residence, Gates replied, "ya, I'll speak with your mama outside."

Very interesting and he followed him outside, after the officer was reserved in leaving gates kept shouting his racist tyrate.Oh and did anyone mention the wittnesses that saw Gates outbursts (yes plural). None of those witnesses cried about profiling by a cop. In fact the only racist was GATES HIMSELF!!!

Im still looking for the Audio of this event but i do recognise Obama digressed in his remarks and said they both acted out of hand. Hmmmm maybe obama heard the audio and thinks having a beer at the white house would suffice each others hurt feelings...lol

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/

duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8549122


Killion also claimed that audiotapes, now in the possession of the city solicitor's office, will show that Harvard Professor Gates "turned this non-incident into a racial incident." He said the audiotapes will prove Crowley's account of the incident and show that Gates "was provoking the incident. He wanted to prove who he was... He deems himself higher than everyone else around."

On the tapes, Killian claims, "you can clearly hear him berating the officer, creating a scene."

Get informed people and dig into this shit and you may discover your liberal roots do indeed render you as Obama said "we cant extrapolate from the facts."

Yeh you cant because it blows your racial profiling (race card) of the poker table.

Disgusting display of radio MTJ and Ben inclusive.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

obama's gates comments are towards the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ak0ti9C5Ss

good and bad are relative concepts.
yup. and progress towards racial integration is good news to me.

Michael T Justice said...

Clearly Big Dog you are not a friend of the show, but rather an enemy of it. (Once again, I'll point out that there has always been a Rush replay over on KMBZ. And the good news is there will be one on Tuesdays also.)

You have a vested interest in making me out to be some kind of "LIAR!!!" Therefore you neglect to mention(or perhaps you are extrapolating from a lack of facts) that I quoted the story I was reading from that Gates called the property manager. This means that there was some other owner. I also called Gates out as an elitist and arrogant SOB for having an attitude of "how dare you question me." Now if you want more than that, then go ahead and tune in to the replay I mentioned earlier. They also have these cool new things called podcasts. I'm sure you could get a copy of Hannity, Humphries, Beck, Savage or anybody else you consider to be a good display of radio.

Now permit me to be arrogant for just a moment: When will you figure out how the spell checker works? That might help CLEARIFY your TYRATES, although I doubt it would help much.

Anonymous said...

To Anybody,
Sometimes people hear what they want to hear, I know I've been guilty of it anyway.

Rush Limpballs = BIG douchey dittohead

I highly recommend the Firefox web-browser. It has a built-in spell checker and a handy tool called ad-block.

Romans 10:3



To Marcus,
I feel I owe You an apology. For one, I don't believe I should have called You an atheist no matter what You may call Yourself. Someone recently pointed out how distracting labels can be and I see that no matter what boxes we try to put people in, we can never fit perfectly in there. The words that You put in my mouth did not reflect my attitude at all though. During our online chats, I saw myself acting in a way that is inconsistent with my own beliefs and I didn't like it, though I know we all do it sometimes. In truth I attempted to empathize with another human being, not "an atheist." I hope that You will except my apology.

Bruce

Marcus said...

No apologies needed, Bruce. We both struggle to reconcile the person we ARE with the person we wish we were or believe ourselves to be.
I don't mind being called atheist as long as it is understood what an atheist is. I don't like when people use it as a pejorative out of ignorance. Like racism, I think that is nothing more than a phobia, a fear of an unknown.

Illuminaughty said...

Marxuth

Anonymous said...

http://drop.io/justicefiles7_26_09_1

http://drop.io/justicefiles7_26_09_2

Anonymous said...

People talk about creating MORE jobs like it's a GOOD thing in the big picture.
We waste SO much resources and people's time in this country to create MORE jobs.
If we took the jobs that we have now and cut hours but kept the pay the same that would create more jobs in a much better way.
I KNOW there is a way to do this and balance it economically. I'm just not sure how?
Any ideas?

Anonymous said...

Interesting MTJ. I appreciate your cander...(oooops no spell check)

I asked for some audio records awhile back and you never responded to my asking. Now you pull them out your ass for what reasons? I havent even listened to them yet. I can see how this truelly speeks volumes of your dislike towards me....oh wait, you just started to record your shows? So you implemented something i crammed down your fence? Damn how non-contributory of me for such a so called enemy to even suggest....oh the irony.

Oh but wait what if it proved my point you wont post them and somehow these back you up So you post them. I will listen after i post this. I Reserve the right to further comment.

Hmmmm...i wish i would have read this before we talked on air tonight.

However, i am not a enemy of your show, if so that would make us enemies in real life, because of course, your whole "BACK YARD FENCE" mentallity would be gone? So lets see if MTJ thought his rhetorical comment through.

Oh wait here we go, oh gather around everyone (BYF), we are now neighbors and enemies...now i wonder how that would play out. Oh well, no worries, so please get a grip on yourself and atleast have a stronger basis for your dislike of me. I mean holding you accountable for the crap you bestow upon the public is disrespectfull? i gladly wear that belt proudly.

Seems tho, your BYF mentality includes: noone can be held accountable for the facts, as they truelly present themselves,vastly becoming a beacon for ignorance. Oh sorry, that was disrespectful, but i feel that way, so i'll lie about it to apease you?....or no wait, ill hide it from you? there we go, and, and i can be more lady like? Oh wait, wait, did you just GO GATES on me MAN!!!...lol No you played the cop roll, because you get pissed about my unruliness and name calling. Gates said your MOMMA to a cop....lol namecalling oh wait im Gates and your the cop? Hmmmm...ok ok....im done...lol

Talck abowt dumming down of America. HAY BIGDOG! UZE I SPEEELL CHEKKKKKKER!!! (screw that). I make spellinq ereerres all da tyme....lol Huy mun get a funking dicchionary, wood bee my stule, hell i even dabble spometwhat in THEROSORICEES!!...lol


BTW if you cant hang with the BIGDOG, at the BYF. Then dont get off the porch!!

HAHAHAHA!!!

Anonymous said...

BTW MTJ im not going through a repeat of your show, to find 30 seconds out of a 3 hour show. If you wish to cut out the parts we discussed on air then so be it. ill except it as your honest attempt to prove you didnt agree with that guys profiling take. if not. no worries.

Anonymous said...

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/

2009/07/whats-in-healthacre-bill.html


I havent read the entire bill but i wonder how verfiable these are. Seems more like opinions to each line or page....not sure yet.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

BIGDOG Actually, I just started recording his shows. I'm not sure who's case will be backed by the recordings. I back the truth whatever that may be and you can be a real "jerk" sometimes and that's the truth.
-Nutty Justice Files Fan

Illuminaughty said...

I refuse to metion that Marcus is gay.

Anonymous said...

I refuse to mention that Firefox has a built-in spell checker.

Anonymous said...

Again if telling the truth and calling people on thier BS is being a jerk, then i will galdly wear that belt.

BTW it would be nice to actually know who is posting or is Bill(nutty justice files fan) to big a pussy to actually post his name.

Anonymous said...

Oh and i refuse to mention i wrote the above.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

True story:
I used to deliver pizzas.
One evening, I was on my way to make some runs in rush hour and on the other side of the road there was a traffic jam at an intersection because everyone was getting over to avoid a muffler that was blocking the road.
On my way back, about 15 minutes later, I was stuck in that traffic jam because everyone was going around the muffler.
Instead of spending 5 minutes going around it, I pulled up behind it, got out, and moved it into the grass.
Took less than 30 seconds.
And then I and the cars behind me, and those who came after, drove right on through and got where we were going much quicker than the go-arounders did.


BIGDOG - I do support your freedom of speech, but I admit I don't like your attitude about this. If you really consider someone your friend, I would think you would have enough respect to know for sure what you are talking about before you attack them. I get carried away sometimes myself.

This is obviously a big deal to you. Since you are the one accusing him of something I believe the burden of proof should be on you. You can use something called the 'free hi-q recorder' to capture what sound bytes you may need to prove 'your case.' You can upload your soundbite(s) to drop.io quite easily and for free. Perhaps one of you could truly admit fault and you can move on more easily. I record the show in case I miss part of it or in case I'm not exactly sure what I heard at some point.(I learned that from a kkfi caller a while back)

You might want to listen to yourself too and better yet listen to his reactions. ( http://drop.io/justicefiles7_28_09 I think your call was right around the 3 o'clock hour) He obviously doesn't want to hear unsupported claims about an opinion (right or wrong) that he is very much entitled to have anyway. I really don't want to hear it either. I do support your freedom to be angry, but I've gotta say what I've gotta say too. This anger is rooted deeper and seems to be a roadblock that keeps you from growing. When you spend 20 minutes on the radio talking about it, you make it anybody's business. Unlike internet posting, I can't choose to skip over you without possibly missing something else. I listen to the show and even when I don't agree with people, I can learn something and/or form my own opinions from what they say.

If you need a friend (or an enemy) to argue with I'm down. So if you want to fight, you can fight with me. I'm a "truther", "infowarrior", "conspiracy theorist", all that good stuff. I'm sure that there's lots that we can agree and disagree about, and I'd love to learn what I can from you, especially what I'm wrong about.

I really do worry about you. When you used to talk about waking up in the middle of the night, and realize that you are cleaning 'things' in your sleep that's a pretty good sign to me that you need some prayers said for you.

I can't apologize for saying that you can be jerk sometimes because I believe it's the truth. I generally say what I say because I believe it's the right thing to do so I don't always feel the need to sign my name.
-Bruce (Giant Pussy)

And I refuse to mention that I have much respect for you because you've got heart.

Anonymous said...

"I really do worry about you. When you used to talk about waking up in the middle of the night, and realize that you are cleaning 'things' in your sleep that's a pretty good sign to me that you need some prayers said for you."

Ummmm.....i never said such things about myself, nor does it happen. WTF is wrong with you?

If this is your idea of trying to talk sense to me and be all nice and persuasive and in some way divert attention. GO FUCK YOURSELF BRUCY.Oh and im sure your prayers will land on deaf ears do to your lies about me. Thus serving the father of lies. Fruitcake.

"And I refuse to mention that I have much respect for you because you've got heart."

Yeh and while its still beating you will never get another response from me....Bruce (Giant Pussy)


HAHHAHAHA!!! hows that for being a jerk.
BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

Bigdog,
(I think I'm wearing your belt)
I wouldn't lie on you intentionally. I remember quite well a couple of years ago when you used to call in a lot, twice that I remember you called in and said that you cleaned your guns in your sleep. I don't have a recording though so I won't push the point. You can hear what you want to hear and remember what you want to remember and see what you want to see. You accuse people of shit when you don't even have a basis for it. You assumed first that it was mtj that posted the recordings and then you assumed it was someone named Bill(the sports blog guy I might assume) You admitted "ill except it as your honest attempt to prove you didnt agree with that guys profiling take." and "and somehow these back you up So you post them." You attacked him without even knowing for sure what was up. And perhaps you were joking but do you know how this sounds: "BTW if you cant hang with the BIGDOG, at the BYF. Then dont get off the porch!!
HAHAHAHA!!!"
I'm not trying to be persuasive, I'm trying to show you some truth.
I'm not trying to distract you from your argument but rather draw your attention to it, hence posting the recordings.

You get delusional sometimes, Bro. It's okay to be wrong sometimes. I was just trying to help you and you spit on me. Don't worry about it though. It's pretty obvious from your posts and phone calls what a great person you try to be.

Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior.

Bruce

Anonymous said...

BTW MTJ posted something about podcasts and low and behold they pop up.......Hmmmmmmmm...seems fishy to me and with noone claiming them...Hmmmm more fish stink.

Did you set me up?

I actually purposelly was being a jerk towards you. You called it spitting on you.I was only validating your assertions with true show of spitting(being a jerk).

"Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior."


Mine too.

Im sure Jesus would approve and agree with you, that i am a jerk and delusional. BTW is what you say about me(jerk and delusional) biblical or are you just making it up.



BIGDOG *see how i left my nickname so you could identify who i am.

Anonymous said...

http://health.msn.com/nutrition/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100242535&GT1=31036

Jerry's Blog said...

http://wwdefender.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

If you don't want to hear my long-winded ranting it's cool, you can just breeze right on by.

I'll make the assumption that you know about Jesus and MLKjr. Another of my heroes is Mohandas Ghandi. He frequently wrote in many indian publications and his letters read almost like a diary. He poured his heart out honestly and unselfishly. Reading his writings has effected my life dramatically. When I see a good example I try to follow it, wherever I see it.

Noone is setting you up, BIGDOG. You posted something about looking for the audio of the event in regards to obama's gates comments and lo and behold it popped up. I posted the youtube link because you wanted or needed it. It seems to me that lots of people post info on this blog without signing it. I didn't do it for some sort of 'credit' so I didn't sign my name. Also, I was content to post the justice files audios anonymously, until you started with your 'wild conspiracy therories.'

I'm not trying to be perfect because that would be unrealistic. I do constantly try to be better though. I guess I took a page from the Bigdog handbook when I called you a jerk. I apologize for that. I'm only human, BIGDOG. When you spit out a bunch of hate, it does affect me. I do have thin skin sometimes, and I'm working on that. Holding back the jerk-like comments towards you is not as easy for me as it probably should be.

From now on when I post an opinion I will try to remember to sign my name. When I post information though, I might not sign it.

And please don't YOU ever try and preach to me, Sir. You could someday say something very relevent and I might hear something else because it came from You.(again, only human)

I beg you to please listen to yourself. When you get moody sometimes, I think the truth could be staring you right in the face and you probably wouldn't back down.

Our first-gut instincts are there to protect us but they don't always protect others.

When I was a child I felt picked on by my dad and my classmates. Then, when I was a young teenager I did some picking-on of my own. At some point, I took a good, hard, look at myself and the cycle was broken. I despise those actions now.
Then I went to YCAT.(which is the juvenile version of prison for the state of kansas) I was in there for pidly shit compared to the murderers and rapists and whatnot.(stealing $25 from my stepmother's purse and running away) The victim mentality came easy for me. I was in a place where people really are out to get you, for whatever they can.
I felt victimized by, among others, lots of black dudes. Somehow I became quite the racist. It took a long time to break that cycle and now I despise those actions.
I know that cycle is broken now because a couple of years ago I was riding the metro bus and big group of black kids ran and stole my pizzas that I was taking home for my grandmother and my young cousins. I was more pissed off than I can ever remember being. A lot of angry stuff came into my thoughts and out of my mouth but not even one racial slur was thought or spoken by me.
I guess my point is that these hate-cycles can be broken but not by more hate but rather through love and some introspection.
I'm not proud that I was bully and a bigot. These are things that I am deeply ashamed of. I'm not posting what's on my heart so that you can judge me or try to push my buttons.(though you know enough about me to do so now if you choose) I pour my heart out because I care.

You've got a lot of hate in you that comes out, no matter how you justify it. If you want to, you can break these cycles too and you don't have to do it alone.

Admitting when we are wrong can be one of the most liberating steps that a man can ever take.

If this world is sane, then I'm proud to be a nut.

Bruce (Giant Pussy)

Anonymous said...

My fruits do not bare anything of wich you described me as. So what does that exactly mean for your assertions. Does that make them false?

Anonymous said...

The above was written by BIGDOG and would like a answer from Bruce the self proclaimed giant pussy.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure exactly what you are refering to.

I said that you spit out hate. (Me too at times.) This is true, for reference just look at your posts or listen to your phone call.

I said that you have wild conspiracy therories. (me too at times for sure) This is true, for reference - most of your recent posts.

I said that you have a hard time admitting fault. (I'm learning) This is my opinion, and since I haven't heard you do it, I stand by it for now.

Do you really want to keep doing this?

Bruce (how about, whatever you want me to be)

Anonymous said...

Bruce says: "I said that you spit out hate."

read up..You said: "I was just trying to help you and you spit on me."

Two contrasting statements. So not to call you aliar or full of shit im asking you for pertinent information concerning your statement that Jesus is your lord and savior.

Now im going to ask you one last time and for more clarification than anything else.

Where in the bible does it show me to be delusional and a jerk?

I take your silence on this to key in on a point im trying to make. Im just waiting for you to answer it so it becomes reality to you.

Now let me attack you for not using spell check. "therories"???

If i have a hard time admitting fault then how is it GOD forgave me? How does that work in your bible then Bruce?

You actually dont think things through do you and yes we will keep doing this until you answer my important question to your christlike analogies of my person.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

BIGDOG -
I looked and I don't see where I brought the Bible up even once in this conversation. I haven't tried to make this a religious discussion. I don't see where I ever compared you to Christ. If You believe that the Bible shows you to be delusional or a jerk, that is between you and your Maker.

I stated that Jesus is my Lord and Savior because it's the truth. I also wanted to make that clear to you because I don't want to hear your 'father of lies' crap. I serve one master and that is GOD.
My intent is to tell the truth. I'm just a man, imperfect, and I'm not a lawyer and I can admit fault.
Have you ever thought about Law school? I think that you might do well there if you can get over yourself. Seriously.

Sorry about the lack of spell-check I happened to be using a different browser(opera) at the time.

I did not say that you NEVER admit fault.

I apologized for the jerk comment.

Some web definitions of delusional:
(yes, I googled)

A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional

delusion - (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary

delusion - a mistaken or unfounded opinion or idea; "he has delusions of competence"; "his dreams of vast wealth are a hallucination"

delusion - the act of deluding; deception by creating illusory ideas
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

delusion - A false belief that is resistant to confrontation with actual facts; The state of being deluded or misled; That which is falsely or delusively believed or propagated; false belief; error in belief
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/delusion

delusion - is a false belief that a person maintains in spite of evidence that proves it untrue.
www.a2zpsychology.com/psychology_guide/mental_illness_terminology.htm



I don't avoid your questions or issues with regards to this conversation. I do misunderstand you sometimes and I am open to some correction from you right now.

Do you really want to keep picking each other apart?
If so, then by all means keep going. I want you to know that this is not self-righteous or enjoyable to me.

Bruce (whatever you need)

Illuminaughty said...

Jerry = shameless self-promoter

Anonymous said...

HAHHAHAHA!!!

Anonymous said...

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And that's a particularly important issue for children, she said.

"We know that young children are getting the nutrition, whatever choice they make, but we also have to look at the pesticide issue," Rarback said. "A study published in Environmental Health Perspectives found that children eating conventionally grown fruit had pesticide residue in their urine, which decreased after just five days on an organic diet."

The production of organic food is subject to a variety of regulations, including those that govern the use of pesticides and other chemicals in fruits and vegetables and the use of medicines in animals, the authors of the review noted in their study, which will be published in the September issue of the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Extb-DKHvdo

Anonymous said...

Florida congressman Alan Grayson laughs in Ben Bernanke's face - priceless!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ECLxK2YTs

Anonymous said...

Cool beans Bruce (whatever you need). Next time pray for me and keep your assertions of my character to yourself. Oh and did i mention your opinion of me wasnt based on anything Jesus has taught you. This explains why you wouldnt go there and twisted your way out of recognising that simple truth.

You are unfair in your judgement because i know you have heard MTJ lie and you say nothing to him about it. He did it again, when i got home i asked my wife about what MTJ said : "i got in his face" at a meet and greet. Well she was there both times i was present and she never saw me get in MTJ's grill. In fact i never got stirred up at all PERIOD!!.I mean both nights it was date night for me and the wife so i know i would never act like that, unless i was defending her.

So im going to call him on his lie when he gets back. Oh but you didnt hear that did you? Just like you didnt hear him correct the "good doctor" and his lies on his show. One example I had shown MTJ pictures debunking said doctors lie that WTC7 was never damaged. I called back and grilled him for not correcting the lie after he knew it was a lie. Isnt that delusional Bruce. By your definition it sure is. So is MTJ delusional too? Oh you missed that show too?

Isnt it interesting how i see this man, MTJ, using a pillar of community or BYF, to further his agenda with lies and omittions and when i call them out on it for exactly what it is, i get "well i just dont like the way you talk to me" or "your a jerk". Well booo hoooo start telling the truth and correctng you obvious errors and omittions.

Now onto you. I hope your message of love is true and not a cover for how shall we say; a wolf in sheeps clothing. However i do think it is genuine, just understand this. Your judgement of me isnt based on all the facts; only what you have selectively heard and not absed on the whole truth. Understand this about me Bruce. I love all of GODS creation including you and MTJ...etc. I do not like people inappropiately passing judgement on me without being completely informed. Isnt that delusional as well? Shouldnt the approriate question to fully grasp what im saying about all this be:

Hey man whats your beef with MTJ?

Well you got a small taste of it.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

How do I stop laughing about "exiled mutant albinos"?

Anonymous said...

YOu cant....LMAO!!!

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

I know most wont care but this verifies my beef with him Bruce (whatever you need).

"i got in his face" at a meet and greet.

BTW in the fairness of full disclosure The quote isnt exact but is very clear he meant me getting all up in his grill.....lol Its funny....the Meet and greet was the only place we have ever had personal contact. Oh and in studio and nothing happened there either.Me thinks he was attracted to me...HAHAHAHA!!!.

Heres the link to the audio, thank you Bruce, kind sir.

http://drop.io/justicefiles7_28_09

Give the exact quote a listen so one can say it isnt taken of of context it comes about the 76:40 mark, on the mp3 you download.

This demonstrates my problem with him Bruce. He says something that was untrue and directed at me in a very hostile exclaimation "LIKE YOU!!". I wonder if he did such a thing to somehow paint me a bigger jerk? in radio land? I mean what was his intent at the time? Hmmmm....dont want to be delusional, so id like an explaination from him. Was he confused? you know?



BTW if you dont think i have a legit beef, truelly not watch this guy, nor correct this guy, but to hold him accountable for what he puts out there. But guess what? i have to do the first two, to achieve my admitted agenda from a few years ago, oh and still today....lol

I think an explaination is deserved on his part.

BIGDOG

Anonymous said...

Bigdog,

I apologize for being a dick to you. I think that since neither of us has acted very Christian about this matter, it'd be a good idea to leave religion somewhat out of our chats, if that's okay with you.

I don't mean to sound cold but I'm not too concerned about with your beef with MTJ.

I can't remember a time when Michael T, lied. I don't believe you to be an intentional liar either. I do think that you quite often make unfounded assumptions, assume the worst in people, and talk a lot of shit. And whatever your intentions are, people can get unproductively pissed about it and it doesn't do anybody any real good.

Until recently, I've been doing other things on most saturday nights so I don't know about whatever doctors discussions or meet and greets and such.

If I saw the wtc7 pic that you spoke of I wouldn't be convinced either because there is too much evidence and proof that points to govt lies, omittions, and fakery concerning that whole day. Just like with the moon landing picture, it's fishy, but I'm not convinced that the moon landing was fake.

You started this when you repeatedly accused people of shit without knowing shit. That's my 'beef' with you.

In a way I guess I did set you up. I gave you the tools you needed so that you COULD know some shit and prove it. People aren't going to be as apt to listen to you, right or wrong, when you act like a dick. I'm still working on this myself.

You could assume that someone is mistaken rather than a liar. That is a much safer assumption for everyone involved (especially among "neighbors") or for those not involved but included by you.

The truth is, I don't even know Michael T, the Doctor guy, the Bill guy or You. I'm not going to assume that any of those people are sitting back curling their evil mustaches thinking of ways to propagate lies to push "their agendas". I like to assume the best and sometimes prepare for the worst.

I would not have bothered to post the JF recordings if I thought you were beyond reason. You've got so much passion in you and I see it as a shame to waste it with such petty bickering. I've got love for everybody too and much like yourself, I sometimes have a fucked-up way of showing it.

It's been a while, but I'm willing to brush up if you want to talk nine-eleven.(if I'm not too busy howling at the moon or 'baaaaahhh-ing' in the streets that is) Because 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

By the way, I agree that 'exiled mutant albino' stuff is pretty damn funny.

Bruce (gaping vagina:)

Anonymous said...

I gave you the evidence you needed to see exactly what i am talking about Bruce. You may not care about him lieing on me but i do and i think i deserve an explaination form him on this matter.

Have you examined this info for yourself at the 76:40 mark?

BIGDOG

BTW i have no beef with you. I was just merely pointing out that your examination was incomplete and i am not the jerk in all this with MTJ. I have a legitimate beef that needs to be ironed out and his dislike of me wont allow this to happen. Im determined to break through his angst, in fact i would say ive seen major progress on his part and i know i have progressed in being better at handling these things i despise.

Now if you honestly believe that 9-11 was an inside job then please show me your evidences but first start with a good narrative based on your evidences. In fact i have offered Ben and MTJ 1-thousand dollars if the have conclusive evidence proving 9-11 was an inside job based on thier narrative, but they like to change their narrative as you refute thier claims. Guess what? nobody has stepped up, not even Jake, godfather of Bens narratives and suicides.

Bruce (gaping vagina:) I did not need to know this...lol

Anonymous said...

Bigdog,
I'm going to rest for a minute, do some other shit, I'll be back in a day or two.
Peace, Bruce

Michael T Justice said...

Allow me to clearify:

You are an ASS!! By in my face I am referring to your behavior here and on the phone. I barely remember the time or two that I met you personally (believe it or not there were other people in the room). And by suggesting you called me a race baiter, perhaps I was referring to this little post:
-Yeh you cant because it blows your racial profiling (race card) of the poker table.
Disgusting display of radio MTJ and Ben inclusive.

Now get out of my face!!

I owe everyone an apology for letting you take control of my show with your personal attacks. "now go back inside and go to bed before I have to use a taser on you.

Anonymous said...

Race baiter and agreeing with someones take on racial profiling are different animals, so keep squirming you lil worm.

Give that lil clip a listen and squirm some more. You said people have gotten in your face before....LIKE YOU!!! or some shit like that. Tase me, punch me in the nose, just remember this one thing.

I own you!!!...lol

HAHAHAHAHA!!! sleep well my lil nutjob.

Illuminaughty said...

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And, of course, Happy World Breastfeeding Week!

Anonymous said...

Bigdog,
I really do believe that 911 was an inside job. I don't have a thousand bucks to give you but if you can convince me otherwise, I'll eat a fat can of alpo. Seriously, no ketchup, hot sauce, utensils nothing. Straight dog food.

Some stuff that I question:

Why was dubya not whisked away by secret service dudes especially after the second plane hit?

Why did dubya just sit there while the attack was going on?

Why can't we see the pentagon footage?

Why can't we hear the black box recordings?

Why did rummy say that flight 93 was shot down and then retract it?

Why did our military let it all go on?

Bruce

Anonymous said...

Oh and breastfeeding rocks! Breasts in general rock!
Bru

Anonymous said...

You have questions. I dont really believe you believe 9-11 was an inside job. I mean how many people would have been involved to carry out such attacks and how come they arenot dropping like flies to keep their mouths shut. Thats alot of people to silence Bruce.

"Why was dubya not whisked away by secret service dudes especially after the second plane hit?

Why did dubya just sit there while the attack was going on?"

I think these two questions are somewhat similiar and for the most part evolves around knowledege of the Secret Services protocol and chain of command for protecting immediate powers of the US....i.e P,VP and thier spouses....etc.

In all the reports everyone was evacuated immediately to safe places. Dubya was in a safe place for now, but the SS did not know exactly what happened and fearing a setup to kill Bush; escorting Bush out of the school into open danger may have not been a good idea. Richard Clarke was in charge of th White house situation room at the time.

So let me ask you bruce.

Big ups to 9-11 myths.com
1. Where were the security service to take him?

2. How did they know that the attackers might not be relying on Bush being moved?

3. Perhaps there was a truck bomb waiting for Bush to be moved to the airport.

4. Maybe there was an ambush planned at the airport. What if Air Force One was the target?

The Security Service staff at the school with Bush did not have an overview of what was going on, and as Bush was in an area that was secure on the ground, at least, then surely it's reasonable to take time to consider where Bush should go next. And take guidance from someone who was in the loop, back at the White House.(Richard Clarke or Fanklin Miller)

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Page 6
Against All Enemies
Richard A Clarke

The television screen in the upper left was running CNN on mute. Noticing the President coming on, Lisa turned on the volume and the crisis conference halted to listen. "...into the World Trade Centre in an apparent attack on our country."

During the pause, I noticed that Brian Stafford, Director of the Secret Service, was now in the room. He pulled me aside. "We gotta get him out of there to somplace safe... and secret. I've stashed FLOTUS". FLOTUS was White House speak for Mrs Bush, First Lady of the United States, now in a heavily guarded, unmarked building in Washington...

"Can you work with Brian", I told [Franklin] Miller. "Figure out where to move the President? He can't come back here until we know what the shit is happening."..."

BIGDOG

Before i continue we will handle this one concern at a time. Does this explaination help you understand the complications of moving a president around in public during suprise attacks?

Anonymous said...

Bigdog,

You said "I don't really believe you believe 911 was an inside job." What the fuck is that supposed to mean? So you think I'm a liar? What's my agenda, Little d? If I wanted to lie or be a dick, I'd probably be rich by now.
And the way our military is set up, it really wouldn't take too many people at all to be involved to make shit happen or not happen.


"1. Where were the security service to take him?"
- How about way the fuck away from innocent children since he could be a target?



"2. How did they know that the attackers might not be relying on Bush being moved?" "3. Perhaps there was a truck bomb waiting for Bush to be moved to the airport. "4. Maybe there was an ambush planned at the airport. What if Air Force One was the target?"

- 'Maybe moving him is exactly what they want us to do; so we won't move him at all, HA HA!' Are you fucking serious, dude? 'We'll just leave a possible target like him right where he is, in a place where everybody knows right where he is, that's gotta be the safest thing to do.'

Safe place? Come on, man. If they couldn't defend the wtc or THE FUCKING PENTAGON, how are they going to defend an elementary school?



5? "Does this explaination help you understand the complications of moving a president around in public during suprise attacks?"
No.

Your arguments here are very weak. Perhaps sometime down the road we can continue this. For now, I'm done. I guess I just can't hang with the BIGDOG so I'm going to get off the porch.

I think that you should take your thousand dollars and buy yourself a really nice telescope. I plan to buy one soon.

Peace,

Bruce

Anonymous said...

and I would have zero respect for anyone that WOULD take your thousand dollars

Bru

Anonymous said...

9-11 I don't believe was an indside job in the sense of someone planting explosives but certainly it is probable that people in high places may have known about it in advance and let it happen to further their plans.

Much like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania

I have little doubt that Mosad knew or the CIA though in the case of the CIA it was gutted on the Altar of PCism when they forced many of the old timer white guys out to make room for so-called minorities and females with little or no experince.

Anonymous said...

I could see that. And I'd call that an inside job.

Anonymous said...

BIGDOG -

I've got a nickname that a friend of mine that passed away gave me years ago.(before I ever even heard of you or kkfi)
I got carried away with some shit. I'm not an asshole, but I've been trying too hard to be nice. I forgot who I was for a minute.
I thank you for your part in reminding me.

Brudogg(WOOF!)

Anonymous said...

thank you too Marcus

Anonymous said...

so what do minorities have to do with it exactly?

Anonymous said...

This is what I think: we are hypocrites sometimes. hate sucks. 911 whatever.

This is what I KNOW:
Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life

Bruce(Brudogg)

Anonymous said...

Whatever you think about whatever, If you know what I know, then please pray for me

Thank you,
Bruce

Anonymous said...

The arguements are weak in your opinion, only because you still want to believe 9-11 was an inside job. I still dont believe you believe it was. My reasoning is simple, if you actually believed it and had irrefutable evidences you would be dead by now or making lots of cash selling your book.Yet somehow nothing like this has happened. You may have a few questions and may not understand fully the logistics of that day. You have no legit proof and still no narrative, so my 1000 dollars is very safe.

BBYE BYE!!

Anonymous said...

This isn't about 911. Please pray for me.

Illuminaughty said...

So, basically, 43rd and Paseo is more dangerous than the swine flu.

Anonymous said...

My intentions are good. I allowed myself to be neuro-linguistically programmed. I bear no ill will towards the programmers, but I know now that it is okay to hate some of their actions, and some of my own.

Anonymous said...

bye bye yall

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, and paragon show sucks!
laters, for real this time

Marcus said...

Now THAT'S good news.

Marcus said...

What were your god's last words (before he had himself killed for a few days)?

Bill said...

Big Dog I didn't say anything about you. I don't need to hide behind a fake account to call you out. Nice for you to assume that I was behind the annymous account. You know what they say about people who assume.

Anyway it's funny you of all people bitch about race baiting, You are no better then them. While you don't usually play the race card you certainly play the victim card, which is unfrotunate because you do make some good points however you always seem to be the victim of Micheal's debates. I'd hope you have something better to do with your time then bitch about a community radio dj disagreeing with your point of view (no disrespect to Micheal.)



Anyway does Mike aka showsucks guy post on here? It's nice to hear his views on economics.

Marcus said...

Every post with an account name that is purposefully insulting is Mike. Every post that is overtly homophobic and racist is Mike.

Anonymous said...

I dont believe bigdog is playing a victims role at all Bill. I have been listening to KKFI for a long time now and i have heard many exchanges from bigdog. I never heard him play a victim to anything. I have heard Mr. Justice on several occasions make snide remarks about bigdog. Maybe its more appropriate that Mr. Justice not even say anything about bigdog or infere anything his way.

I mean the onus is on Mr. Justice...agreed? its his mouth and his airtime...right?

Bill i have heard you comment before and you seem like a brite individual and im sorry but i feel you are on the wrong side of this and i needed to say it. You say no disrespect to Micheal but im hearing alot of crassness from you about bigdog and not to mention you havent heard Mr. Justices blatant disregard of pertinent information on many occasions. To me this commnity is lucky to have someone like bigdog; oh and i have heard him before on other talk shows calling people on thier misleading info and or lies.

BG dont get a big head, but i do appreciate your honesty.Keep it up boy.

Flip

Illuminaughty said...

Yes, Bill, I post here. Please come back more frequently.

You'll have to forgive Marcus. All the homosexual sex really hurts his ass hole, making him act like one.

Anonymous said...

The fact is, Bill, you can go through the different posts on this blog and see for yourself or you can go to the Evil Genius' blog at wavestationxanthony.blogspot.com to see some really nasty stuff he says (the kind of thing you only hear muffled by a cone shaped hatmask, anonymously on the interwebs, or shouted just before you hear gunfire at museums). I don't think anyone should care about anything he says much less want to hear more of it.

Marcus

Illuminaughty said...

The evil security guard has a blog?

Anonymous said...

If you think you're fooling anyone, you're fooling yourself.

Bill said...

Flip, How was I being disrepctful toward Micheal T? I just said nobody should get upset over what a radio host says and just agree to disagree. I listen to Micheal T's show every week and I don't think he's disrepsectful to BigDog. Like I said I wish BigDog would spend more time talking about the topic instead of talking about how unfair the radio host is.

Anonymous said...

Wow talk about selective reading.No where in Flips post does it say anything about you disrespecting MTJ. Perhaps re-reading it is required.Flip you might want to take back your account about Bill being brite.

BTW BILL i have been listening to MTJ for atleast 6 years. What? your lil six month run lends you an understanding? Again Flip, he isnt that brite.

I mean, get off MTJ nuts, bill, fuyckin nuthugger....lol


BIGDOG

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