http://www.911summary.com/
I also had a chance last week to see a vid by pilots for 911 truth that is probably in need of straightening out. Using what they claim to be flight path info from FOIA requests, they assert that there were many inconsistencies and strange maneuvers in the pentagon strike.
Big Dog, your mission, should you accept it: Show the inaccuracies and shoddy investigation tactics of these folks. I'll say right off the bat that the pilots site does have a donation link. But as I have said before asking for money to further your work doesn't, by itself, discredit ones work. Although it can certainly be used as a plank in a case against someone.
For the record: while I will accept donations (especially canned goods, generators, and survival gear), I'm not asking for any.
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Why should i even bother. You threaten me with limited time on air. You threaten me with what you think is power. However you shout out to my ability to DEBUNKIFY your or others erroneous claims. WTF...you miss me?? LMAO!!
I have said we can talk about all the complacancies in the world and on 9-11. I have stated that the 9-11 commisions report was a political document. I have said that NIST has done plenty of investigations using academia and other peers.
Your lunch buddy, Richard Gage, isnt one with much credibility. He has admitted to his mistakes about the squibs on B7 and said that people like me help sharpen their talking points/ arguements.(not a quote)
Just never claim its a scientific fact these buildings were brought down by demolition. You did post a video that made this claim.
The most egregious thing is this. You stand behind these men who make these claims and then ask me to do your homework? In a flippant fashion to boot...Pfffft!!!
Do it your fucking self,for once, and do a thorough investigation of these sites. Pay attention to their banners/adds and those who are asking for donations. Furthermore have no record of being a non-for-profit organization. Seems to me if these people of such great authorities and benevelance would support these victums families. Well...one would think the moneys raised, through your donations, would go for their kids college funds or something that directly supports these families. I dont buy into the tug at your heart tactic. MT your rhetoric supports these people and you havent done one ounce of FACT checking. Oh thats right your just a guy at a backyard fence trying to figure it out. Seems to me you want others to figure it out for you. So why bother as i said from jump.
BIGDOG
Do I miss you? sure I do...and you miss me my friend. Am I flippant? of course...you continually call people nutjobs, pffft, LMAO, (he queefs), curse and scream. I am simply responding in kind. I have lengthy discussions with people that I disagree with( john, mike,jerry, lefty, even george) as long as there is a modicum of respect. i.e. not screaming "you're a liar" over and over. disagree without being disagreeable.
As I often state on the air: the opinions expressed are those of the people expressing them, not necessarily those of the station or even the host. In fact I sometimes put forth positions that I don't personally hold in order that they be part of the discussion. I believe in giving everyone a stage from which to express their views, opinions, beliefs. I call it freedom of expression and you can "bother" to express or not.
I think I've personally stated several times that I do NOT KNOW what exactly happened but I have MAJOR problems with the scenario that has been presented to me as the official story.
As to limiting your time on air: you are surely joking sir.
I have offered you time on air, invited you to the studio, and to lunch (didn't have lunch with Gage even though many from the event did). I even put your challenges, as best I could remember them, to Gage on the air. I had you in studio to talk about your book even though I disagreed with your claims of weapons in Iraq. I have been criticized too many times to count for having you on the air too long. No sir, I don't limit you. i f you call in during the 2 minute drill well you know the drill.
Hmmm.... insert(LMAO!!!,ROFL,Pffft,NUtjob) Actually the evil genius called you all that on his blog, ill give him credit.
"As to limiting your time on air: you are surely joking sir."
Some time ago you said.
"but you have abused that trait in me to the point that you get 2 minutes with me( I still can't see myself "banning" someone completely)."
Who posted this MT???
So if i call before the drill i get more than 2 minutes? Changed your mind i see.
So much for community when you decide "the backyard fence" is no longer a fence but some power ploy. Overshadowed by a dump buttton and a phone line.
How did that statement fit in your conspiracy pipe?...LMAO!!
I told you about my medical condition, what you forget this too. Hmmm so we are diggin a wound thats personal and on a medical level. Surely your not making light of my condition. So give me a break on this momentary conversation lapses. The conversations bled together in a weird way. This is why i dont give three shakes off my lill pad what you think, nor what digs you are trying to goad me with. Like kind huh?...seems more of a personal attack. Yet you bitch about my LMAO!!!, Pffffts, NUtjobs. You take pop shots at my condition. Nice one bro. However, as of late its getting strange to say the least. I press on, never complian about my condition, or stress over personal challenges, you and your show conclusive.
BTW where is your post about the neglect and murderous ways of the cycloned dead wastelands of Myanmar and how it somehow relates to Katrina and then linked back to Bush and the US government weather machines....Pffffft!!
BTW ill say it. You cared more about attacking Bush over Katrina. I said in the past i couldnt support Bush on these failures. I also prefer state respons and hold them more accountable. However i dont see one post about how Myanmar failed their people too. Last weekend this happened.
Damm sore bed yee Bush is behined dem der wethor macheens.
Make your donations at CycloneVetsfortruth.com....:)
BIGDOG!!!
i honestly don't know what medical condition you have or how it fits into this discussion now.
"You said awhile back:
("Dick! Oh, I thought I was talking to my friend, Richard." In the middle of a conversation you suddenly thought Anthony was someone else?)
YES MIKE THIS IS MY CONDITION!! Momentary lapse of concentration. I have been experiencing these things on my route and its effecting my performance. All brought on by SEVERE HEAD TRAMA/MY WRECK!!! REMEMBER??? Maybe it was the beer that made you forget. A person who doesnt care about another would easily forget his or her ailments.
Lets continue:
"The unfortunate part is that I actually like having discussions, even heated ones, with people that I disagree with (Lefty, John, Mike from Fairway, even George)....."
Notice how similair the two statements (above and below)are and for some weird reason i blended the two.
Mike queefed in this thread!!!:
"I have lengthy discussions with people that I disagree with( john, mike,jerry, lefty, even george) as long as there is a modicum of respect. i.e. not screaming "you're a liar" over and over. disagree without being disagreeable."
Strange how i jumped into an old conversation thinking it was the current one. Great example. My fault. Oooops...forgive me. You want to fault me for a medical challenge, fine....be my guest.
Like kind tho? Doubt it.
Consider this a friendly warning. Dont forget again.
BIGDOG
I'm still trying to figure out what any fucking thing you say has jack shit to do with 9/11.
I mean you continuously bash my credibility, Gage's credibility, Mike's credibility, when what you should be doing is responding to the info.
(Maybe if I can come up with a clever insult and then say "DEBUNKIXED" then people will believe that point is debunked!!)
-Miles
As far as Mike's 2 min. drill goes, I struggle to get my points out during it, almost weekly.
I usually get most of what I have to say out, and even those who don't usually run a touch longer, the only time I've heard him hang up on people is when it goes beyond the musical cue.which is considerably longer.
It's called rules, and Mike has them for obvious reason. To allow for back and forth discussion and possibly attract newer callers who can't get in during Mike from O.P.'s long diatribes about new energy sources.
We can complain about it, but personally I question how many of my rants would have gotten on air recently if it wasn't there.
-Miles
Contradictions: Atta's Mitsubishi and Luggage
These 9/11 discussions just make me want to hear Russ call in and blame the Jews for something...anything.
Mike
That's not funny, Mike. Oddly enough, I blame the Jews for BIGDOG'S car wreck. Thank you and you're all doomed.
Russ...at the Ukrainian Post Office
NO!!! miles....this below is the main reason why Gage has no credibility, besides his inexperiences and how no demolition expert backs his claims. Furthermore siesmology doesnt support demolitions, wich was taughted by Alex Jones and whatreallyhappened.com, more credibility out the frecking window. Yet you agree with them on many issues. Hmmmm...seems you guys have ruined your own credibility, i just pointed out why you should scrutinize these boofers and I have been for a long time. Thats why mike seemingly has issues with my socalled disrespect. Im a sore spot in his side because i have pointed out his many errors and their rhetoric of those he supports...e.g. The Good Doctor. Misrepresentations, skipping paragraphs, admitted errors he glossed over with the Dr.(B7 damage)
Even while on air he skips damaging facts that discredit him. One in particular, i called back and asked him why he left the damaging paragraph out; of the source i sent him out. Just like many other examples he got angry. He doesnt want to viewed as ignorant or a liar. However he is quick to point out how everyone else is lieing (BUSH esp.), when in fact evidences show he is the one lieing. Oh how he hates this. I have no intent on respecting a man who shows no interest in righting his wrong.
Gage admitted being wrong and then explaining that people like me help fine tune his arguements. Now this shit below. Nothing like having an audience being told how to react for the NEW video. Why?? is this for dramatic effect? The other presentation got blown all to hell so he is refining it? So it all becomes perpetrated emmotions and the ill will effect on the unsuspecting, ignorant people, who view this shit and then they are asked to make donations.
Those like yourself, have no credibility, when you expouse his and like-minded rhetoric.
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You starting to see a pattern here. Donate money, redo presentation. Donate,redo.Donate redo.Donate,redo. Oh lets do lunch!!! LMAO!!!!
Oh and Dr Jones so called; "Dr. Jones' findings of unexploded thermite in the dust." So where are all these people backing up Jones claim? The term unexploded thermite was describe by Jones as being residue of Barium.
For Miles:
Jones says:
"I can be proven wrong," Jones said. "I accept that. But whoever does it will have to explain this molten metal to me, and especially all the barium found. That's nasty stuff that's not going to be used in a building."
Isnt it odd that Barium is used in GLASS!!! was there any glass in dem der buildings? Barium has many uses in building materials Miles. I suggest you read up on Barium.
Oh and now Jones is saying that the thermite was painted on. Do you realize how thick this paintjob needs to be to create a thermite reaction strong enough to cut those beams. Besides i havent seen him re-create such an event to prove his claim. If it was easy for whomever to paint it on a beam in WTC1&2. Lets see his demonstartion proving paint-thermite can do what he claims. SHOWME MILES!!! lets see Jones' hypothesis tested. (enter failed peer review here)
Jones said on Air America Radio:
"Jones: Superthermite, in the nano-composite sol gel form, can be painted on the steel columns and that then can be touched off with radio controlled signals. This would not take months."
Oh and did i mentioned his failed so called peer reviewed paper and dismissal fromn BYU for his unreliable paper that didnt pass peer review by The American Society of Civil Engineers and many others.
Now you wonder why i question your credibility. Miles in my mind you have plenty of credibility with me. You want to discuss 911 complacancies. I have no problem joining you in this endeavor.
BIGDOG
Whats this? Crickets i hear MTJ and Miles. Shall i drop a scientific bomb on you nutjobs....lol
I real expert analysis and also my evidences how seismic readings (applied sciences) prove there was NO DEMOLITIONS. This is a key component to the 9-11 so-called truth movement. Once again science supports more and more that demolitions was NOT used in WTC 1,2&7.
Copy then paste the below address in your browser for a full read.
http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf
BIGDOG
I know more silence will follow. Be prepared MTJ i will be calling in soon about this particular examination by implosionworld. Read it carefully. I know you wont, but i thought i would try.
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