Friday, May 09, 2008

Someone Tell Nikki, They're gunning for her!

So I got this email from Miles:

Subject: Someone Tell Nikki, They're gunning for
> her!
> >
> > http://www.kslegislature.org/bills/2008/531.pdf


Check Nikki's response especially the analysis of the law.
I'm not so sure that they aren't gunning for the "crazy"
home schoolers. Note that in the analysis You are warned not
to refer to yourself as a home school but as the
"Michael T. Justice Academy of Social Awareness"
Feel free to use that Nikki.

-----Original Message-----
> From: "Nikki"
> To: "" <michaeltjustice@aol.com>;
>
> Sent: 5/6/08 3:07 AM
> Subject: Re: FW: Someone Tell Nikki, They're gunning
> for her!
>
> The thing is, there's no provision in Kansas'
> Constitution to determine what is a "competant"
> teacher.
>
> It also looks like this was drafted in 2006? We've
> since taken him out of public school and have had to
> undergo NO competancy tests or difficulty in doing so for
> the sole sake of homeschooling.
>
> It also looks like this is more about the state fighting
> funding homeschoolers. We've never received dime one
> from them, and we still pay taxes that go to the public
> schools.
>
> Besides, if you go here:
> http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp?state=KS
> you'll see, Kansas is (as of the date that I'm
> typing this) still one of the states that gives parents
> total autonomy on what their children learn.
>
> All that is required from me, after we've notified the
> school board that we're homeschooling (as a
> "non-accredited school") is that I teach him 186
> days a year, 6 hours a day.
>
> Who sent this to you?
>
> Your favorite tomato,
> Nikki

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

at the top it says session 2008, and it says "a public
school for the duration of the school term" or "a private, denomina-
tional or parochial school taught by a competent instructor"

Meaning home school doesn't count. until the child is 16-17. Except a church education program past 8th grade.

At least that's how I read the damn thing.

--Miles

Anonymous said...

Miles, what that means is that a child at the age of 16-17 can choose for him/herself to be exempt from compulsory education (same age that a child can apply to become emancipated).

It doesn't mean that homeschooling doesn't count as counted instruction.

If it did, then we would have had problems the two times we pulled our son out of public school (first time was at the end of 2nd grade, second was in the middle of his 7th grade year). All we had to do was to notify the school board that we were starting a "non-accredited private school," and homeschooling our son. (Mike, I may take you up on the title! ;) ) But they didn't give us any flak or trouble for doing so.

Anonymous said...

Understood, but that was the past, this is pending legislation.

I am not sure that your home can count as a private religious or parochial school under this bill.

I am not the only one who reads this into this legislation, this was passed to me through both Ron Paul groups and Legislator Watch groups, with a stern warning that anyone who home-schools call their KS state congressperson.

I could be wrong but I don't think that they would cause concern where there isn't the possibility of crookedness.

The language seems very dangerous to me, While you can try to pass your home off as a private denominational or parochial school for a while, in the end it's going to be up to the state.

Be very weary.

-Miles

Anonymous said...

I appreciate the concern, but so far, Kansas law doesn't dictate any specific requirements in subjects or training.

For the meantime, we're okay.

If, on the other hand, things change, we'll take it from there.

But what gets me is that nowhere in the Constitution (either state or federal) does it list that one MUST attend public schools.

Like I stated to Mike, I believe this particular bit of legislation is more about funding for the schools than anything else.

Anonymous said...

Arm yourselves!

Michael T Justice said...

remember that California is trying to outlaw home schooling. The lobbyists and activists that push legislative efforts are organized. Generally speaking, we the people are much less so. consider a couple of different efforts that have spread or are spreading:

the folks who are currently trying to undo affirmative action in MO have been all over the country pushing petitions for "fairness"

Grover Norquist's TABOR (TAxpayers Bill Of Rights) has been passed in several states

Gay Marriage bans in how many states

All of these, as I understand them, have been put before lawmakers and the people, in the form of petitions and referendum, by organized groups that sometimes pass themselves off as homegrown ideas (shucks state senator, I'm just a constituent in yous area).

I'm just saying that there ARE those who want ALL children to be indoctrinated uniformly. And homeschooling stands in the way of that. It's much easier to control even private and religious schools through teacher training and mass curricula influence. As Miles says:
be wary

Anonymous said...

Panda Express really is a poor excuse for American Chinese food. It is not that I need to have a menu with Mandrian neon translations. Nor do I need a cashier "fresh off the container" not being able to understand my "Ni hao" with a twang. Essentially, I want the Pearl of Asia in a Crabragoon. Is that too hard to ask?

Kornhal Sanders

Anonymous said...

In my personal experience, the best Crab Rangoon is done at Chinese Buffets, as sad as that sounds.

Mike, you're right. The teacher's union in Cali is TOTALLY trying to undermine the rights to homeschool. It makes sense, fiscally, to see why they would, but that doesn't take the child's best needs into consideration.

They would NOT like what I'm teaching my son... from evolution to etymology to the real reason the Civil War happened (not the revised edition we've all been force-fed) to how FDR is not necessarily one of the best presidents we've ever had. Ack, I can feel myself going into rant mode, so I'll stop here.